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Thanks again, everybody for tuning in. Today we have a different type of guests. We have a designer and a serial entrepreneur, like an interior designer. I've been known her for quite a while. We'll go into that just a little bit into the episode. But she is a testament of perseverance and having that entrepreneurial spirit and her husband and how they were able to reinvent themselves, keep their marriage live. And in tough situations still find the positive work their way through it and come out the other side better than they were before. It's very inspirational hour. Really enjoyed it. And I'm think you guys will to all the show notes, a doctor's perspective, net slash one seven.

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podcast world. Welcome back to the show. Today we have a special guest Teresa Lipsey. She is a designer, an editor and a serial entrepreneur. And I've had the privilege of knowing her for almost eight years. I think I

Unknown 1:31
might even be longer than that. Justin. I don't know.

Justin Trosclair 1:34
It couldn't be. Well, I'll just give the quick story how we met we were in Colorado and my clinic need to be redecorated and I said Hey, how about how about Teresa and she just hooked me up with my color scheme that I wanted cream cream walls burgundy highlights match the furniture I mean I still have those barrel chairs that you got me that were like design with a desk from school

know that thank

Unknown 2:01
you will you will find to work with we did some blue to if I can remember I got pictures but I'd have to go back and look at him.

Justin Trosclair 2:08
That was great as always turned out

Unknown 2:10
well you know what you're probably colorblind.

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Not

Unknown 2:16
up to talk to that doctor.

Justin Trosclair 2:19
So what have you been up to this been you know, you've had some yet back then you had a call a boutique clothing.

Unknown 2:26
Now you've got a magazine. Give me the rundown what's Yeah, what's been going on? You know, Eric and I, we've been at it now for let's see, this month will be our 13 years that we've been together. And out of 12 of those years, we have been entrepreneurs. And you probably know some of the story. But we have been through a lot of different types of businesses we've invested in, we've been in real estate together, we've owned a couple of fashion boutiques, we had a fashion magazine for about three years. And then of course, I've always had my interior design business on the side as well. Well, and I've always been doing that pretty much since I was 13. So we've been we've been through a lot together a lot of successes and failures and pitfalls and challenges. So it's, it's been an adventure for sure. Give us a

Justin Trosclair 3:12
story about one of the maybe the pitfalls. And what did you learn from that?

Unknown 3:17
You know, the biggest one, I think that I can think of that I remember having the most struggle through is when we did the real estate company together. It was back in 2006 and seven, when people here in Colorado, as you remember, the market was just absolutely crazy. And people were just buying up everything. And we got into a couple deals, the sort of set us back quite a bit. We had a lot of outgoing bills every month, because at that time, we had eight houses. And during that time people were refinancing and cashing out and people were buying up properties. And what had happened basically is that we got into a couple deals where the appraisals were pushed over value. Because you know, back then people, appraisers were pushing these values trying to get more work and more work and more work. And they're making all kinds of money just like everybody else, right? And then what of what had happened was we bought these overpriced homes and we went to refinance to get that cash out. Well, we found out there was no cash the these houses that we paid for, and these were like $650,000 homes. So the houses that we paid for were actually worth what we paid, there was no cash value attached to these homes whatsoever. So at that time, we were we kind of knew it was coming down. Because our bills like more 20 grand a month we had we had properties to pay for we were banking on this cash. So after that debacle, we basically we lost everything, because we couldn't keep up and we count on that cash flow to make and to keep moving forward. So after that period, it was it was extremely stressful. Oh my goodness, the most stressful probably part of my life because we went from going about making about, I'd say $300,000 a year to almost broke. Wow. So that took a huge toll on our marriage on ourselves. Especially our confidence and getting back out there and staying focused and following our passions and our dreams. So that that puts a huge dent and all of that.

Justin Trosclair 5:24
Did you can you remember anything that you guys did? Because a lot of people will just divorce Yeah, that's the that stressful, funny money situation? D Can you recall anything that you guys did are really unite each other?

Unknown 5:36
Um, oh, well, yeah, several things. We kept each other up. It was really weird. Because there were there were days when Eric was down, and I was there to be up, and then I would be down and he held me up. And we were truly there for each other. We talked everything out. And you know that I remember one conversation, I remember exactly where I was standing where we had the conversation and everything. And I was, you know, what are we what are we doing here? What do you want? Like, what do you want out of life, and it was heated. And we had this conversation. And there were times where we're like, you know what, I don't think this is going to work anymore, or whatever. And then it just, we we kept it really simple with each other. It's like, you know, what, what do you want? And I was like, I want to I want to be successful. I want to make a difference. And I want to be happy. And he's like, well, I want the same thing. So how can we make that work? And that's exactly what we did like moving forward, we would go back to that moment and just say, you know, remember that one time when we were just straight up with each other? It's like, What do you want? And he's like, yeah, let's get back to that place and sort of start the restart button. And remember why we got together in the first place and why we're here and what we feel our purposes, and then let's move forward on that purpose. So I guess that's, that's the Fukui part of it. But as far as like what we actually did, like physically, it was a lot of work, a lot of work and a lot of communication and respect. And we've kind of master that. I guess if you can say, as a couple.

Justin Trosclair 7:05
That's fantastic. Yeah. Oh, man. Now let's let's go into these boutique shops, these clothing stores. Because I remember the one you had in bradburne,

Unknown 7:15
Brad. Yeah,

Justin Trosclair 7:16
my goodness. And it was a really select store. And it was like three stories he lived on top. I mean, it was it was really sweet. But I, I think it was 2008. Yeah, that's exactly what some time frame with that with the housing crash. Give us the story with that, How'd that go?

Unknown 7:34
This was shortly after this was right after the real estate debacle, believe it or not. So at that time, when we knew our finances, and our cash flow, and everything was coming to a halt. Basically, we knew we were about to lose all of our homes. We knew we were about to lose our BMW, because there is no way we could afford our 1500 dollars a month and car payments, right. So we knew that was coming. And so we just started to realize, okay, so what do we have, right? So we have a few homes with some appliances in it, that technically we own. So we sold what we could, we sold out because we were living in a at that time, we were living in about a 6000 square foot home. And we sold the appliances out of that home. And we're like, Okay, we've got this Muscat, this much cash. And I was running races rocks was the accessories, the handbags and belts and jewelry. So at that time, or during that time, that real estate time, I was selling and doing little shows that of the home, I was doing traveling shows with my product, and making pretty good money. So we actually went through bankruptcy. So we we file for bankruptcy, we include everything in the bankruptcy. But of course, the attorney basically said, you know, you can have $10,000 worth of inventory from your business. So we were able to keep that inventory from Reese's rocks. And with that inventory and the cash that we were able to come up with one of the things that we sold, that's when we turn around and we opened a store right away.

Justin Trosclair 9:05
Wow.

Unknown 9:06
So a lot of people don't know that. But we literally open to that store for Don't laugh, you probably will laugh. We literally opened that store with around $5,000 cash, and about $10,000 with a product.

Unknown 9:20
That's pretty good. Heck yeah. I mean, when you don't have any,

Unknown 9:24
when you really don't have any funding was see that was just an example of how we refused to give up. It's like, Okay, what do we have? What can we do with it? And then that place that we moved into, and Brad or of course was perfect for us. The store was on the bottom, lived up top, the landlord, Lord was awesome. He worked with us. And we did so well through that year that 2008 soon as we open, we did so well. But then of course, October is when the stock market crashed.

Unknown 9:54
And then we crashed again. So huge learning lesson, of course. But it was so tough, Dustin.

Justin Trosclair 10:02
I can't even imagine. But But you did it again. You were able to Yeah, work through it did

Unknown 10:07
it again. Yeah, we definitely worked through it. That was another challenging time, of course, for us and for our marriage. And and of course for our egos because you're like, Oh, yeah, we're going to make it you know, it's our second time around, we're going to make it and then you know, you get slammed again. And it's really tough bouncing back from that really is emotionally, even physically, it takes a toll on you to that stress man that can really get you down, keep you down. Absolutely.

Justin Trosclair 10:33
Of course, as I got into yoga at that time, too, I was like, I need some peace in my life. So yoga was a huge help for me. Um, let's see, that's about it for that. Anyway, I'm curious. And if you don't, you don't have to go too deep in this this up to you, you were pretty busy and active in the chamber in the community and things like that. And then your business disappears within a few months because of the you know, people didn't have the cash like they hadn't. And again, you weren't really like in middle of Denver. This was like a suburb, like a nice neighborhood in a suburb just to let people know where you were at is a destination. Right? Yeah. How do you deal with the influence kind of disappearing? When you're, you know, like, it's a Can you read the chamber, you were busy, you are active, and all of a sudden kind of, everything's kind of gone. We were like, how did you deal with that? Because that's something I think a lot of people have to deal with the that weird in between stage of like, wait, what happened, your business where you at? and all that kind of stuff?

Unknown 11:24
Right? It's You're right, I get it. It's really awkward, because you know, you're seeing in the in the public or in your community as being successful. And then, you know, it happens, and then you're not anymore, right? Well, to be honest with you, we we really weren't that involved in the community, we we were members, we became a member of the Chamber of Commerce, when we open recent rocks, but I really wasn't involved too much into the chamber. But most of the people that I communicated with and really hung out with were the people that came to the store. So you know, after the store was closed, I was getting and this was pre Facebook. So you're thinking I'm thinking, I mean, I was on Facebook, and the business was on Facebook, but I didn't put myself out there on Facebook as I do today. But yeah, I think it wasn't it wasn't that difficult during that 2008 2009 period, mainly because of the social media. But today, if that would be a completely different story. People would be knocking on my door saying, Hey, are you okay, what happened to you? But it wasn't like that in 2008 or 2009.

Justin Trosclair 12:31
So that's good, then,

Unknown 12:32
yeah, it was good as kind of a blessing in disguise, I guess. Because really, people we kind of, you know, we had to take a step back. And then of course, as you well, you, as you probably know, after, we had to close the store, February, so we were open one year. So in 2009. We close the store in February, January. And then that's when we found out we were pregnant. So

Unknown 12:56
broken pregnant, broke twice now and pregnant. So

Justin Trosclair 13:02
now let's let's transition. How did you get? Okay, so you you had clothing, a real store. And now we're transitioning into digital, a digital magazine about fashion about design. And now you're the editor of it as well. So give us the background on that and the evolution.

Unknown 13:18
Okay, Eric and I went, after we had to close our first shop races, rocks. We were trying to think of a concept and a platform rather, of how we could help entrepreneurs. So at that time, we were more into the fashion thing because we had a fashion boutiques, we were thinking what could we create or invent that would help fashion boutiques around the world. So that's when we actually started top boutique shop calm, right. So the goal of that, or the purpose of that was to allow boutiques to be listed for free, completely free. So I was pregnant at home making phone calls and emails to boutique owners all around the world, getting them listed we have we hired someone to create a website for us. And so that that was sort of our transition into that online era into that online platform idea of helping fashion boutiques, so locations because we were passionate about that. So that's when the top boutique shop launched. And that's where the idea came from. And then that slowly but surely, I built that up to we built that up to about 500 boutiques around the world. So Eric, and I were thinking, Okay, so we've got all this audience of these boutique owners, what should we do next? So we thought, Well, what if we created a magazine that we could put these boutiques in and then at that time, also, I knew and got to know a lot of the fashion brand or not brands but designers in the Denver area. And we were sort of building the fashion rapport, I guess, in Denver and the Denver area. So at that time, we were thinking, Okay, so what should we do with this knowledge? And, and then we with, we're just thinking what to do next? And Eric's like, hey, let's, let's start a magazine. And I'm like, What? Like, I have no, I have no knowledge. I mean, I was a yearbook in high school, Justin, yearbook in high school. That's the extent of my magazine editing knowledge, right. And so it was Eric's idea. And he's like, let's just do it. I'm like, Honey, what are you talking about? I have no idea how to create a magazine, let alone design a whole magazine, right? He's like, Oh, you're so good at that kind of stuff. We'll figure it out. I'm like, so that's I mean, that's exactly how when I just thought he was crazy. And of course, we're crazy together. So we made it work. And that's when we, I mean, a few things happened between we because we then we opened another boutique. Yeah. And then in the process, so we opened a second boutique after shortly after that time period to because our thoughts or ideas were, okay, let's open a consignment shop, because we have this audience now, right? We have this global audience, we have these brands that want to be on our magazine. So what if we, what if we feature these brands, and they ship us product, and we sell it at the shop? And that's exactly what we did. So we were able to get an investor, we opened up our second shop, which was downtown in the Golden Triangle Area, which of course you've never been, because I think that at that time, you weren't living in Colorado anymore. Right?

Justin Trosclair 16:21
I kind of got out of there around 2013 ish.

Unknown 16:23
Yeah, that's exactly pretty much what it was. And we opened another shop, and it was going really well. And I had an office in the back where I focused on fashion affair. And that's where that's where fashion fair magazine was born. And my my friends duplex in the basement. That's where we were living at the time. And I wasn't, it was just a baby. And she was like six months old. And that's when we launched fashion affair. And then I just got into the fashion Shannon fashion scene. And I literally taught myself how to design magazines, and how to build a magazine from scratch. And that included people too. So I got to know the right people, I developed relationships with designers all around the world. And it's amazing to me, if I, if I could take a year off, I know people were I know where I would stay all around the world because of all the connections I have. It's amazing. Oh

Justin Trosclair 17:13
my goodness, I'm saying that there's a huge community of people who have made different types of magazine, whether you like bicycles, or whatever, yeah, it's kind of the same format. And you just have to learn what they're doing and duplicate it.

Unknown 17:24
Yeah, exactly. The digital world. I mean, you can create anything, and anybody can create a magazine. Now, the thing is, with magazines, though, you've got to learn or understand what people want to see and what they want to read. And or if they want to read because you know, people nowadays don't read anything. They'll listen to things right. And they'll watch things difficult to get. Yeah, exactly. It's real. Or Yeah, it's just why I'm on this right now. This podcast, people just prefer listening to things. And so it's definitely becoming a digital world in which I love. It's, it's amazing, because I wouldn't have those connections that I do today, if it wasn't for the digital world. So

Justin Trosclair 18:02
what kind of platform is it like a internet platform that you use to build an online magazine? And like a lot people use WordPress for it for internet, but

Unknown 18:10
the platform that I've always used is issue issue. And it's Yeah, it's the largest digital platform to upload your own PDF for your upload magazine to and they get it and you can campaign do campaigns with them. And they have a huge, huge global audience. So of course, it costs money to run campaigns with them and get your magazine seen by the world. It's amazing. It's a really great platform. What's your goal with it? What's your like your five year goal with this magazine.

Unknown 18:40
With venture now venture is different because that was that was fashion affair and fashion affair. Just to take a couple steps back is I loved it. I really enjoyed the fashion of course, the fashion scene, I learned a lot about the fashion industry while doing it. But the magazine itself just it really consumed me and it consumed my life. And I about you when was this almost two years ago, in April, I actually went on a fast I fasted for four or five days, just because I felt like I needed to like to clear my head. And you may keep up. But I do do fast every now and again just to detox and stuff. But the reason I just needed some clarity, and I got clarity, so and it was April, actually, so almost two years ago, I went on this fast. And on that fourth day, I really received some clarity. And I discovered that I was done. I did not want to be a part of the the industry anymore. And were just there certain parts of the industry that just really shocks me and I just couldn't bear with it anymore. And I was literally working 10 to 12 hours a day on this magazine, I was in charge of a lot. So the correspondence and the all the inundated with emails all hours of the day and the layout, and it's just so much and I just couldn't bear it. Like, I I felt like I was missing my child like I wasn't even able to watch her grow. And so that's when I took a step back and realize, you know what, I'm done with this. I'm done. And then I made that decision, May of 2015 was my last issue. And since then, I've been getting back into my interior design company, which has skyrocketed. So which I'm so thankful and glad about. So that's awesome.

Justin Trosclair 20:26
Because I'm guessing the magazine, especially digital, it's got to be tough to really make a living with it to where you can hire staff to delegate everything is my guess.

Unknown 20:36
Oh, you're exactly right, because we have not, we never were in a position where we just had two and $300,000 just to, you know, put into a magazine and hire in a copy editor and hire the layout editor. Honestly, I did most of it myself. And it was just extremely exhausting. I mean, I learned so much. And I taught myself the business and taught myself how to do it properly, really and effectively. And you're right though and to run a magazine like they do, like they do in New York or whatever Vogue or any any magazine that you see on the racks, those those companies probably are blind know they are in a very surmountable amount of debt. So and I am not going to be doing that.

Justin Trosclair 21:18
Yeah, it seems like there's a writing on the wall with like print magazines, there's then making them but it just seems like they're they're all going to start failing. That's right, next five years, but I don't know anything about that. It just it just knows that way.

Unknown 21:31
Actually, you're right. Even Steve Jobs said that print was dead. And how long has he been gone? And he said print was dead. So it will be eventually I mean, it's slowly turning is slowly becoming that way. I mean, anytime I get a piece of mail or a magazine in the in the mail or trash mail, whatever, that's literally where it goes, it goes in the trash. I don't. And people like Oh, can I send you my magazine? Or can I send you my catalog? And I'm like, do you have it online? And most the time they're like yeah, Mike No, please don't it Plus, it's, it's more sustainable for the earth. And of course, that's another subject. So we we we love being digital. There's so many reasons why people should consider or prefer a digital magazine over print.

Justin Trosclair 22:14
Okay, so you like fashion? I'm curious. What are your tips for men and two tips for females? what's hot right now?

Unknown 22:23
I didn't give you that one on the pre pre questions. You know, I

Unknown 22:28
it's crazy because fashion. I've never really been passionate about fashion, per se. i i i think i'm just more passionate about expressing yourself and being who you are and being comfortable with yourself and comfortable with what you're wearing. I think that's the most important thing. I'm I'm not much of a trendy person. I mean, my haircut I guess that's pretty trendy. But wait to see

Unknown 22:55
her. Amazing.

Unknown 22:58
Crazy.

Unknown 23:00
Um, I guess my haircut? Yeah, it's trendy. But as far as like what I wear? Yeah, it's it's usually quirky and stuff. And I just tell women because people are always asking me Hey, do you? Are you a personal stylist? I'm like, No, I have no desire. Because I think what's the most important in your, in your outfits, in your persona in yourself is confidence. I think confidence is like the most important accessory. And that goes for men or women. And yeah, it does help if you're put together nice and a timeless way. And you know, some people should stick away from trends. Because just because it's a trend is not mean it's going to fit you. And my thing is always this if you feel confident in what you're wearing, you're going to exude that confidence wherever you go. So don't really necessarily think that you've got to keep up with the trends to to get attention. Because that's really what it is, is fashion. You're just trying to get attention. Some people aren't though, too. And that's fine, too. But if, if you're trying to like you know, look good and get attention if you're putting yourself out there, just make sure you're confident because that's that's the biggest, most important thing.

Justin Trosclair 24:05
The saddest thing is when you see people with a they're buying the stuff that was trendy, like a while back. Yeah. But you know, they still haven't just made it out on Macy's yet, but you know, it's like, Where's that anymore?

Unknown 24:16
Right. Right. And you know, right now it's funny too, because men, Eric's funny. He's like, Yeah, I just feel like these, these suits are just getting tighter and tighter. I'm like,

Unknown 24:25
Well, hey, at least you

Unknown 24:26
go and I spy for us. So that's good. But it's just it's funny, because you know, men, really, most men are not comfortable with really tight pants. And that's just where the trend is right now. So you know, don't put Don't you know, stress yourself out and squeeze yourself into those tight pants if you're not going to be comfortable.

Justin Trosclair 24:43
I wasn't sure if you met a guy he gained weight every every game muscles. But it sounds like the students are just getting tighter and tighter.

Unknown 24:50
Yeah, that's exactly what they're getting tighter and the legs are getting shorter. I'm like, Oh, honey,

Justin Trosclair 24:55
you're just we don't need to see the walnuts when you sit down people come on.

Unknown 24:58
Yeah, exactly. But those

Justin Trosclair 25:03
interior designing new people still have personal shoppers are he had made a comment about that. Is that still a profession in this day and age? And at one point, it seemed like that went down with the economy. But is that back where people actually pay someone to dress them and update their wardrobe?

Unknown 25:20
Actually, yeah, my brother in law does that for a living. He has his own wardrobe styling business. And he's amazing at it. And yeah, people do pay and especially professionals, where it's really important because you're putting yourself out there and you're meeting people and you're giving your first impression. And of course, as you know, sometimes image can be everything, unfortunately, but that's just how this culture in this country is. So I think it's important to a certain degree, to understand the importance, I guess, of how you look. So yes, the people I think it's a very, very popular profession right now. Of course, you have to be good with people and you know, careful how you speak to them. Because obviously, you don't want to offend them. So I think it's important the communication and respecting Of course, and he does a great job. And a lot of people are coming to him for help. So yeah, absolutely. Very interesting.

Justin Trosclair 26:17
You know, I read, they said, doctors, they should wear a white coat and that wear a tie. But if you're not going to wear a tie, then you should wear like scrubs for like a polo was one of the worst things, apparently was like, Oh my gosh, I didn't know any of these, let's say, I guess I need to change some of the things that I'm wearing to attract these patients a little bit better.

Unknown 26:40
I don't think that's necessarily true. But I would probably go against the crocs. I've never been a problem. Oh, gosh, no, yes.

Unknown 26:49
That'd be horrible.

Unknown 26:50
Oh, I know, right? If you actually wear a polo shirt with a crock these know, you're not a chef. No, I think. Right. Exactly. Or you're not going fishing and you need to be a have rubber shoes for the weight doctors dress is a very interesting question. You know, I never really thought about that. But I guess about going into a doctor's office? I would, I would almost expect them to be wearing some sort of coat, you know, and with their name on it, I think maybe at a hospital but for what you do, I think it would be kind of professional looking, you know, like a, as long as it's not summer, but like a long sleeve button down with a tie. That looks nice. I mean, that would be I mean, let's be real women like to see men dressed up, not the men, I guess men do to just you know, whatever. So I think just looking professional, and sometimes when you're the best person, Best Dressed person in the room, people remember you and they're not going to forget Hey, that doctor dressed really nice, right? I think I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go back there. beer belly.

Unknown 27:52
And that tie? You don't have a beer belly.

Unknown 27:55
Tell me what you know.

Unknown 27:57
They should work out.

Unknown 28:00
Right? That's the you're exactly right. But you know what, if they do have a beer belly, maybe they should be a little more concerned about how they dress, right?

Unknown 28:06
Because if

Unknown 28:06
they're put together and if they've got a nice shirt and a nice tie on and look good, you know, maybe that'll, that'll that'll counter the guts true. If they were actually I prefer them working out and eating healthy. But

Justin Trosclair 28:17
what do you would hope?

Unknown 28:18
Yeah, I would hope if you're a if you're a so called Dr. Let's take care of yourself. Right?

Justin Trosclair 28:23
So how would a young a young buck 18 1920

years old? How does someone to go into a design interior design? Do you have to go to school for this? Can you do? Did you go for school in the school for this? Or like what should they do? What's your advice?

Unknown 28:39
Um, you know, there's so many there's an interior design is a huge spectrum. So I did go to school, I went to a four year I got my four year degree. But to be completely and perfectly honest with you, what I do now is not what I learned in college, because what I do is more of the aesthetic. The fun part, the pretty part, I bring a room together, I decided the paint colors and you know, the furniture placement, accessory placements, so that it's a, it's, it feels good, and it looks good. And I create, I create spaces for people. Now you can be an interior designer and work one on one with architects and doing the floor plans and get into the technicalities of where the electrical electrical outlets go where the lighting outlets go, where should the refrigerator go and stuff like that, like I never got into that part, honestly, because I felt like it wasn't it wasn't as fun for me. And I just I enjoy working with the client more than I think I would with a bill or and or the architect. But it's more personal. And so no, you certainly do not have to go to school, if you want to do what I'm doing, honestly. But if you want to be an interior designer, and actually work on one with builders and stuff. Yeah, absolutely. You definitely have to go to school for that, because that's important. But I definitely wouldn't go to like I would go to an actual interior design school, I wouldn't go to some University and take all these classes for nothing for sure.

Justin Trosclair 30:04
Well, I was captures that. Because I've never really had to build a building out completely. I thought the architect would be the one putting, are you going to have light switches here based on the code, the all that kind of stuff. But the interior designer could actually do a lot of that stuff as well. And like encourage the architect to build correctly.

Unknown 30:20
Exactly. Interior Designers I think are very important. Because let's be real, most of the buying the buying decision, that decision buying process is primarily made by the woman. I mean, it really is. The husband is usually like oh yeah, let's just get a house that you want or whatever. So you I noticed that all the time, women are always complaining, oh, they should have put the laundry room on the first level or they should have done this and they push it upon an outlet they're absolutely builders should understand and architects to understand how important it is to have a woman in the picture. And, and just to get a different perspective, a different. So it's just so important, because that's what's going to sell your house is the the efficacy of your home, and how people use your home. So you know, you can't just throw up, just throw it up just to throw it up. You got to put some thought into it. And I think that would definitely it would definitely make a difference. I think if more interior designers were involved in that process,

Justin Trosclair 31:16
very interesting.

Unknown 31:18
So do you.

Unknown 31:19
Yes, I

Justin Trosclair 31:20
was that?

Unknown 31:21
Sorry. Go ahead. No, I was gonna say, Are you building a house to me me to help?

Justin Trosclair 31:25
No one, actually, you know, in China, I live in an apartment that they just didn't do a whole lot with and I just was I've been other people's houses. And that's kind of what I've seen too. And I'm just gonna like, they just sort of whatever, it's white walls, like a hospital practically. And they just whatever. And I was like Linda impressed. And then you go to like a hotel you like, Oh my gosh, it's as fancy as you'd expect it to be. And then you some people's houses that have more money. And they've decorated there on the inside. And you just like, Whoa, you can do all of this here. I just didn't go to the right. Yeah, we're like, it's really passionate. And,

Unknown 32:01
yeah,

Justin Trosclair 32:02
yeah, you just got to have people to help you to plan it out

Unknown 32:05
to put it together. Yeah. And I think that's a huge misconception with people. And because I help them every single day, I walk into a house and white walls and no color and just very minimal, minimal furniture, which is fine. If you're a minimalist, I get it, I get it, you don't. A lot of people just want to keep things simple, because their lives are stressful, or their their job is crazy. And maybe they travel all the time. Everybody's different. Everybody wants different things. But one huge, huge, huge misconception is how color affects you, and how having things that you love and then inspire you, surrounding you and your space makes a difference in your emotions and it makes a difference and in your mood. And I every time I help someone, and when I'm finished, they always almost all of them say the same thing. And that is I wish I would have done this sooner. And I wish I would have known how much happier I would be. If I would have known that I would have done it sooner. I'm like well, I guess that makes me feel good. I did my job. But then you know people don't realize it, you know until it's done. So

Justin Trosclair 33:17
what's a good color for calm and healing?

Unknown 33:20
Common healing that would be blues and greens like the ocean?

Justin Trosclair 33:26
Check. Yeah.

Unknown 33:29
I will bill you appreciate it.

Justin Trosclair 33:32
Glad your wallet one. So what does that say about me?

Unknown 33:34
I yeah, yeah, that's no, it depends on the yellow it depends on the tone of what yellow. Yellow good. It's a happy color. Yeah, it's a good color as long as a soft and not too bright.

Justin Trosclair 33:45
Yeah, that's good. I'm gonna reveal one more for you just for fun. My bedroom because I was a single man I can do whatever I want. I had that CGI green.

Unknown 33:54
CGI. What is that like that Kelly girl like

Justin Trosclair 33:56
that really bright green, the US and TV.

Unknown 33:58
Did you get any sleep?

Justin Trosclair 34:00
Yeah, well actually ended up not sleeping in that room. After a while I went to the smaller room that was like the bigger room. And it just yeah, had the bright green and I loved it every time I walked in. I just smiled from ear to ear because it was so bright and beautiful. But then I ended up sleeping in the smaller room because it had better air conditioning.

Unknown 34:17
Ah, see, subconsciously was probably three. So

Unknown 34:22
now I can't imagine like anybody with bright colors. If you're surrounded by those bright it wasn't like a callous Saki green because that was like, yeah, at so that would be really? Yeah, like, yeah, like a discount Saki green. Like that's high energy. Like that's the kind of green that you see in gym. So did you feel like working out during your sleep? No.

Justin Trosclair 34:44
I mean, I was just every time I went in, there are my clothes. I was ready house. Let's get this get going.

Unknown 34:52
Well, you know what, I guess color can affect different people different in different ways. So I'm not going to know darn good. If you want a green wall. If you want to green wall, let's do a green wall. But then you'll probably call me and like six months and see I can't say

Justin Trosclair 35:04
definitely had to get repainted when I saw that the

Unknown 35:09
whole house has to be redone.

Unknown 35:16
Yeah, I would have been that the stager out of it. Like now this has got to go we gotta change this. Yeah.

Unknown 35:20
Good luck with that.

Justin Trosclair 35:23
Well, what has been some of your top two ways that you market yourself these days?

Unknown 35:27
You know, I would have to say, like platforms I use like Facebook, whatever, however you get business. Okay. Um, I don't know if this is gonna sound cheesy or not. But I guess I feel like I get most of my business from my relationships with people. I really like to, I get to know people. And I don't know if it's because I've cut that small town mentality. And yes, I was born and raised in a very small town where you know, you know, everybody speaks to each other. You smile you wave. And that was grown. I grew up with that. So you meet people. I feel like I um, yeah. Well, I mean, people at coffee shops, I mean, people in the yoga class at the gym.

Unknown 36:10
Eric and I, of course with Ventura, we have our own mastermind meeting groups. So we started those and we're meeting a lot of great people with that, of course, and just my clients, a lot of most of my work that I get is referral. And or I'll do some crazy post on the local, the local community Facebook page, and it gets attention because I usually put some crazy stuff out there. And like, okay, for example, I have this picture of Ryan Gosling. Did you see this post I made? Probably don't know.

Unknown 36:41
He's a pretty ripped guy. Okay.

Unknown 36:44
I know. So right. Most women are just like, oh, Ryan Gosling. Right. So part of my part of my marketing, I think, Okay, well, we get attention. And what's better than Ryan Gosling. And so at the top I, of course, I get to create my own marketing materials, because I know how to do that. And so I created this image where I had Ryan Gosling, and it said, if you hire Teresa, I'll come over and fluffy pillows.

Unknown 37:10
And I swear, like, I've had just because of that simple image of Ryan Gosling. And why he said, No, I said, Hey, girl, I said, Hey, girl, if you hire Theresa, I'll come over flip your pillows. And then my website was on the bottom. And I swear, like, I've gotten probably four or five clients, just from that post. So I think, you know, marketing yourself and putting yourself out there and being crazy, be be remarkable. And that's what Seth Godin says Seth Godin, he's a pretty influential guy in the business realm, but he always says, Be remarkable and people remember you. So that's the kind of things I think about to when I'm when I'm marketing myself, even if I'm meeting someone, and maybe that's another reason why I cut my hair off two years ago, because I felt like it wasn't fitting me or who I wanted to be. I want to be someone that that does things differently and wants to and, and attract the right people that are crazy, like me and go getter and, and it apparently cutting my hair was like the best thing ever. Because so many people will come up and be like, Oh my god, I love your hair. I love your haircut, who did your hair and almost on a daily weekly basis, someone compliments my hair because barely anybody really has this haircut. So I mean, it's becoming definitely more common now. But we'll have to do something different here soon. But

Justin Trosclair 38:28
look at the picture. She has real hair on top is just her sides are cut like a real short little short. Yeah,

Unknown 38:35
like

Unknown 38:38
okay.

Unknown 38:40
Things like

Justin Trosclair 38:40
you know, that's what guys were if they were into like black jeans and metal.

Unknown 38:45
Yeah, it's so true. Like the short shave sides are faded sides with the Mohawk. It's pretty much right now. I gotta, I gotta hair cut yesterday. So I got all trim. Now I noticed that now I know when I'm out and about if I see a man with a nice haircut, I'm like, oh, wow, you got a nice haircut, because we have the same haircut

Unknown 39:05
has got to be an awkward conversation.

Unknown 39:07
For the manually not for me, man,

Justin Trosclair 39:09
please.

Hilarious. You're bothering me. Alright, so let's see here. We talked about so much. How do you find them? How do you find a balance between like work hobbies? Like you said, yoga, you have a young daughter? How do you find time for all of that? What do you do?

Unknown 39:26
So very, very good. And important question. I think there's a lot of times where I have to be aware of it. Because I could literally work 20 hours a day with the amount of stuff that I have to do on a daily basis. And I think it's really being aware and conscious

Unknown 39:48
of, of,

Unknown 39:51
of what you're missing when you don't have balance, right? Because we have a seven year old daughter. And Eric is on Ventura. And he's his focuses Ventura and members and the meetings. And of course, mine is venture magazine and my interior design and my clients. And of course we have a daughter. So to find balance, if you don't have balance, and if you don't keep balance, things are going to get lost, the important things are going to get lost, like our relationship and our relationship with our kid. But the way we do it is time, we set time and days where we focus and let's have a family day. And the computers are office at 6pm or 7pm just depends on what we have going on. And when he gets home from school, we talk about things we communicate, it's not get on the pad right away and get the technology on. And let's watch TV. And sometimes we'll watch a movie and stuff like that. But the balance, I think the most important part is being aware that you need balance. And then if you're aware of it, then you you create ways to make it work for you. Because everybody likes different things and they get into different things. But yoga definitely helps me stay centered and grounded. And being taking an hour out of my day to really focus on myself and to breathe. And that's that's helped. That's helps helps me with my balance because I have literally a non stop day from morning till night.

Unknown 41:23
What type of yoga do you do?

Unknown 41:26
I were members at the gym here. And there's several different classes I take a roots class, I take a slow burn class, and then a few vinyasa classes. So there's kind of a variety the roots class is dry familiar with

Justin Trosclair 41:41
my wife body, then Yahtzee down Now breathe.

Unknown 41:51
Oh, that's awesome. Um, tell your wife I said good time. And

Unknown 41:57
yeah, vinyasa are the ones where you're consistent flowing. So it's all about the breath and making sure that you're taking those deep and hills and those deep, long exhales. And the roots classes that I go to. Those are amazing, because those,

Unknown 42:14
they're tough, but they sort of the instructors sort of

Unknown 42:20
encourage you to hold a pose for 10 to 15 breaths. And that right there that is essential into being in the moment, you have to learn and understand how important your breath is. And then when you understand that, you use it in your daily life, let's say you're in traffic, and you're about to honk at the person in front of you, when that's not going to serve a purpose, right? So take a moment and take some deep breaths and bring yourself back down and ground yourself and understand you're in the moment right now. I sucked it, how do we move forward. And, and that's just life in general. I mean, that's how Eric and I, on a daily basis, try to, you know, teach ourselves and remind ourselves that let's just focus on this day, yeah, plan for the future. But focus on how we can be the best today and be the most effective and help the people that we want to help effectively, but then also not lose sight of what we need in our lives. And of course, what our daughter needs as well. So

Justin Trosclair 43:22
well, I'm curious to with this, because when two people are super busy with work, and they have a kid, they can have the kid become the top priority with with as long with it will on with the job, and then the relationship kind of falls to the wayside. So what have you guys done? Because you've gone through a lot together? What does anything y'all do to make sure that you guys are connected? weekly, monthly, or make sure that y'all aren't strained? apart?

Unknown 43:45
You know, that's an awesome question as well, you asked really good questions. I'm Eric and I, we communicate. And when we communicate, we do it respectively, respectfully to each other. And, you know, we don't tell each other what to do at all, we let it you know, he doesn't control me, I don't control him. When I need something, I I express it. And if I need help, I asked for it. And I think that's what a lot of people just kind of lose sight of is communicating is so important. And then with work, we have a business partnership, right? So it's like, okay, let's be husband and wife now can we turn and take off the hats, right? The business partner hat and put on my hubby hat he puts on his hobby hat and the wife hats. And so you know, even during the week or something, we'll have a lunch date, or will go see a movie. And I know I was in school. So it's convenient for us to go and do something and hang out or go on a hike or do whatever that we want to do and take that that moment. And And again, that's being aware and being conscious of Okay, things getting really stressed. And we're kind of getting stressed out, let's take a moment, let's be aware of this situation. And just realize that whatever we need to do today will get done eventually it's not urgent. So let's take some time right now and go have lunch and talk about you know, life. Let's talk about our next vacation. Let's talk about family. Let's talk about our dreams and what we want from each other or what what do we what do we still love about each other? What, whatever, just talk, I think that's the most important thing, because you know, when you have kids and you have busy schedules, even people that aren't entrepreneurs, and they go to work all day, every day, and they come home and it's about the kid and about dinner and bedtime and homework and go to bed people don't talk anymore. And they're they're on their phones are checking Facebook and four hours of TV they put? Yeah, exactly. They put so much more there, they're busy. Well, I just heard this awesome video yesterday, people are too busy holding their phones instead of each other. And it makes it it's a good point, people aren't connected like they used to be and when your families and your husband and your you're married or you're not connected to your spouse, and you're not or even yourself, for that matter, you're not connected within yourself and who you are who you want. And if you're happy, because if you're not happy, how you gonna make your spouse happy? And how are you going to bring happiness and joy into the life of your child? So I think honestly, just and I think it starts within yourself, and then you can and then it's just like a spider web, you know, you're starting to create this spider that you're aspiring create this web with the focus on yourself first. And then you can branch out and then you can focus on your spouse and then your relationship and your kid at the same time.

Justin Trosclair 46:32
Have you Do you have any recommendations, it sounds like you might have read a book or something to to help in that matter. Like you have any recommendations to try to find what it is that you need inside yourself.

Unknown 46:43
You know, I think maybe I should write one

Unknown 46:47
go for.

Unknown 46:48
Now, I'm just kidding. I don't have time for that, um, you know, there's really not a certain book that I have that I have in mind as far as a self help book, because most of my self help, honestly. And self improvement has come from searching within myself and asking myself questions. And following what it is I here inside of myself and, and doing what I love. And honestly just helping other people, it feels good. So I'm going to keep doing in my life, what feels good to me and what feels right to me. So as far as business, I think that's a totally different answer. There are several books and audiobooks and speakers that I've listened to that have helped me become more knowledgeable, obviously, but then you but then I believe in the wisdom, I think that's having the experiences in life that I've had, has created me to have a lot of wisdom, at the age of 38. As far as you know, life experiences and what I've learned about myself and about others, and how to effectively run a business and develop relationships with people. I think that all of that the most important thing is experiencing it and experiencing life. And I think in asking questions, you know, if you know someone that is successful at what you do, go talk to them. I mean, you can read all the books you want, but interact with people communicate with people, talk to people, it's just it's just it seems like it's a dying practice. Yeah, I don't know, maybe not. But maybe you you could see that or you can agree with me on that. But the answers, I think mainly come from within, and then you just you just need help along the way, like everybody.

Justin Trosclair 48:38
And so many times you have to learn through the hard times when things are good. We don't learn Oh,

Unknown 48:43
yeah. Yeah, that's where it all that's where you learn everything, it really challenges, your your purpose and your your thoughts and your perceptions about different things and how that changes. And, you know, when we were when we were doing the real estate, we were making all that money, you know, your perception of money changes when you lose it all and you go from, you know, wealthy In my opinion, I get there, you know, everybody has their own definition of wealth. But when you go from wealthy to broke, like literally broke, how your perception of money changes in an instant. And then when you start making money again, you start looking at money at a whole different way, how it can serve you how it can serve others, and its life. I mean, your experiences, I think is what teaches you the most honestly, agreed. It is my top, it's what has taught me the most is my experiences. And what I've taught myself, I guess, but yeah,

Justin Trosclair 49:39
very good. Do you have any kind of phone apps that you just love business or pleasure? I'd like to ask these light light light questions at the end.

Unknown 49:47
Yeah, yeah, of course, you got to make it fun. I understand that. Um, you know, I don't have time.

Unknown 49:55
I don't have

Unknown 49:56
time for like, Oh, that sounds bad. It's not okay. The only app that I use outside of like, the boring ones would be like my, my yoga schedule up.

Unknown 50:10
I'm sorry, I'm just I don't really I don't do any of that. And the only other thing would probably be like my, my how to take pictures with your phone and then like create a collage or something and make it cute and fun. Like, because of my daughter. Like that's the only other app that I really use. I just don't have time for much for my No problem, extra curricular, extra curricular app and I just don't have time for that.

Unknown 50:33
Okay, understandable. Well, how can people find you?

Unknown 50:37
I have, if they are looking for my interior design, that website is Teresa Lipsey designs com. People can find me on Facebook, Teresa Lipsey and or our other company is Ventura, the N tr e dot XYZ, and that is the platform for entrepreneurs,

Justin Trosclair 50:59
entrepreneurs. Now, what are they doing this site? I think we kind of skipped over that.

Unknown 51:05
You know, we didn't really talk about mantra mantra, we launched it about a year ago, actually, we're pretty excited, it's taken a long time to really put this platform together, we finally figured out and you know, stepping back to the conversation about top boutique shop. So we what we wanted to do is instead of helping just fashion boutiques, we decided to kind of pivot it and help all help any and all entrepreneur and or business owners with this concept. So basically, Ventura dot x, y, z is an online platform digital platform that provides tools and resources for business owners to connect with other businesses to earn track, get traffic, we have, you can get a directory listing, you can post your coupons, your events, you receive customer feedback, you can add ties with us, of course, in our magazine, you we have a power partner request. So you can if you become a member, you can send a power partner request to another member so you guys can kind of connect and help each other grow your business. Gosh, there's just so much that we do. In the future. You asked about a five year plan our our plan for Ventura is to be well, first of all, definitely local but national and perhaps international because I believe in anything's possible, right? So what we want is

Unknown 52:34
we we want to be we want to become we want venture to become the the online tool or the online place entrepreneurs go to, to increase their business or to get help with their business or to get funding for their business, I would absolutely love it. If we when we get to a point where we can actually fund businesses and invest in small companies. That's definitely a five year plan part of our five year plan. I mean, we see so much and we have all these ideas. But of course, you know, some of these ideas costs an insurmountable amount of money because you know, we don't think small we're, we're big thinkers, and we just literally want to change the world for small business and for entrepreneurs and get them the exposure that they deserve and that they need to grow their business. And that's really the sole purpose of intra and that's why we started it because we're entrepreneurs and we know what it's like to start a business with no money, we know what it's like to have three good months and then have probably not allowed to cuss on edited out anyway.

Unknown 53:39
I won't say it. So, okay, let's say three bad months. Okay, so we we know, and if if there's that time where you're a business owner, and you're like, oh man, if I could just get five grand, that'll get me through the next month, or whatever we want to provide that will then provide that source for people. And again, this is based on our experience, the things that we've learned and experienced through our 13 years of entrepreneurship. And it's just we've, you know, we've taking the concepts and ideas of like Yelp and monster and chambers of Commerce's and leads groups. And we basically sort of pivoted the ideas and made it more effective and more affordable. That's kind of what I tell people because they're trying to be like, Okay, what does venture really do? I'm like, well, we do all these things, but we make it more, we make it more cost effective for you and your business, and we make it more effective for your tough on your time. And then we definitely, definitely want to encourage people to develop relationships. So nothing.

Unknown 54:39
I'm sorry, what?

Justin Trosclair 54:40
What markets are y'all in

Denver past the major

Unknown 54:45
right now? It's mainly Denver and North Denver. Okay. But we of course, we want to branch off and have, it'd be really great to have chapters. And then

Justin Trosclair 54:55
yeah, so I was wondering if somebody is in another area that like, that sounds interesting. I like to get a part of maybe we can, yeah, have a group of their own people and create their own subdivision or chapter like you said,

Unknown 55:06
Yeah, exactly. Well, eventually, it's going to get bigger than us. I mean, right now, it's just, Eric and I putting together these events. And you know, me pushing out this magazine, and I do the magazine on a quarterly basis. And Ventura, Ventura magazine is more for the global audience. So we'll feature, you know, products and services that people can purchase online. And that company could be in Brazil, or it could be in China, or whatever. So we definitely want and that's why we started the magazine because they want to develop that global audience. Because that's what we see for ourselves. That's what we see for Ventura is developing a global audience of entrepreneurs.

Justin Trosclair 55:47
Very good. I'm glad we covered that.

Unknown 55:49
I know it's very important to because that's primarily, that's primarily what we're doing right now and what we're doing together, so it's very important to us, it consumes our time. Yeah.

Justin Trosclair 56:00
It's amazing how much time it takes to do all these things. Like,

Unknown 56:02
Oh, my gosh, yeah,

Justin Trosclair 56:04
you get one computer crash? And it's like, I don't know. Yeah.

Unknown 56:08
Yes, you're like, I don't have time for this. I mean, even with, with just everyday life, things, you know, having a daughter in school and stuff like that. I mean, that's, that's more time. Of course, it's so important that we invest time into her and her activities and what she's learning and making sure that she's healthy and happy. And we literally just had a conversation last night. And that's sometimes too we'll check in with each other. Are you happy? Eric, and I do that a lot. Just stop and just ask the question, as weird as that sounds, but you just ask, Are you happy? And if you're not happy? Let's talk about why you're not happy? And what can I do to make you happy or not make you happy? But is there something in your life that you feel like you want to do or that you're missing? That's, that's taking happiness away from you. So we always thought when we were straightforward with Asha to we just stood up and asked her like, Are you happy? Is there something that you want? Our Are you missing something? And I think asking questions to man, that's huge, just asking questions to your spouse into your kids. because how else are you going to know?

Justin Trosclair 57:09
Yeah, especially the key when they don't really they're not in full grip of their emotions yet? Yes, the right questions they'll give out of them.

Unknown 57:17
Yeah, exactly. or have them ask questions too. But even like asking questions to our members, the members of Ventura, it's like, what can we do for your business? What do you need for your business? We're trying to create this custom feel. Not every business needs the same thing, that every business person is comfortable going out to these these group meetings and meeting other people. So how can we make it work for you? And what can you afford? What What do you need the most? And we always ask questions, we asked people questions. And that's, I think, what sets us apart from all those other groups out there, and all those other things that, you know, people join all these groups, and it's like, they're not getting anything in return. And we because we've been there, and you've been there, yeah. Right. Because I'm, I'm just gonna say, when we own Reese's rocks, we joined the Westminster Chamber of Western promise. That's funny. Westminister, chamber commerce. And I can remember maybe one person, maybe two people coming in, and maybe one person buying something, and it's like, wait a minute, are you what are you actually doing for me? What are you actually doing for my business? And then it came down to it, they really weren't doing anything. So you people join these groups? Because that's what's cool. Or it's just conditioning, you know? Oh, yeah, once you start a business, you got to join the chamber. And for some biz, you know, you always hear that and people just without question, they join it. And because that's all they know. And I understand that because I've been there. But chain, but this is this is the thing Ventura is, is what's moving is where people are going and what what how we're trying to change business and improve business. invest into businesses, I think chambers are good on like a community level, like they get out there. Like they have their their big events and stuff where, and they give back, I think, to some charity and stuff like that, and that's great. But I thought, right, the goal is to support your local businesses, and to actually give them business.

Justin Trosclair 59:21
So that's a whole mind shift that I don't think, you know, go to a movie theater here, locally, and it's only five bucks to go to the movie. So it's pretty awesome.

That's awesome. And the popcorn is caramel popcorn, which is amazing. And I'm going to the grocery store down the street, smuggle it in, only pay five of their money, and the pop other theaters like 15, right? triple the brain over this is what you expect, right? And I tell my wife is like, you know why I'm doing it, I'm buying it here is because if you don't do that, they're not going to be here. And we're not gonna be able to go watch movies anymore. You have to support these guys, you can't just support a big growth stores.

Unknown 1:00:01
Exactly. You're exactly right. So thank you for thinking like that. And I think that's what, that's why I feel sometimes what we do, is not just getting you know, it's not just getting people more business or getting them one more customer through the door or 10, more of 20 more, it's we're trying to change the perception of how people think, where they shop and and who they give their business to. And that's a really hard to do, because of conditioning. And because of what they've always done. And you know, I'm always going to go to Walmart, I'm going to always go to Walmart and buy this, I'm going to go to Target and buy this and coals or whatever it's like, think about the people out there that really need and deserve your business. Yeah, you might pay a little more money. But where is that money going? Really, it's going to your kids school, it's going to you know, their bills every month, it's going to that families rent every month or their whatever they need to survive. So and of course, I just know this because I've been there it's experience. It's understanding people and understanding the way that it works.

Justin Trosclair 1:01:06
Yeah. I don't understand when people complain, like, you know, like you said, like, Walmart comes in, and all the mom and pop stores shut down. You know why they shut down because your town valued a $3 cereal, instead of paying $4 and 25 cents that mom and pop store. And now, you know, Boudreaux And typically, stores now shut down and their whole family's poor or go find some kind of job and you just like, Well, too bad. They didn't make it. Yeah, the reason they didn't make it because you have banded them as soon as this cheaper option came by,

Unknown 1:01:38
you know what you're You are so right. And let me tell you to one other thing that happened while we have owned our second fashion boutique down in the Golden Triangle.

Unknown 1:01:49
Sorry. So we had to close we didn't really talk about that business. But when I was curious boutique, when we had to close that business, it was because the stuff that we had was higher price point, it was higher quality. It was stuff around the world, it was local artists, local designers, and you know, selling probably 30 to 40, made in United States t shirts, 60 to $70 dresses, some cowboy boots and some $400 handbags. I mean, it was like medium, you know, on the medium level of quality and price point. And this was also the year when everybody started consignment shopping and thrift stuff, you know, that song came out? That's right. So that song came out that year. And everybody started thrift shopping, which of course I have no problem with that I even do that myself now. So I am you know the sustainability of it, you can still support a local business with thrift shopping and consignment shopping, I'm all about it. But back then, it was tough for us to survive. because of that reason, our products were new, they were higher priced. And then we just Of course had to close the store because of that whole era, the whole thrift shopping. Let's get this as cheap as I can kind of thing. So course I noticed a decline in our sales because of that. But

Unknown 1:03:05
this lady, we're closing and had a story outside the front out front of the store. And I was like, you know, the whole store 50% off store closing. And I admit I was emotional. And I was not enjoying the fact that we had to close yet another store. And this woman finally comes in probably because of the sale sign. And she's like,

Unknown 1:03:25
oh,

Unknown 1:03:26
oh, well, you guys are closing. And I was like, Yeah, she's like, Oh, I I just never had the time to stop by I'm like, well, that's why we're closing.

Unknown 1:03:36
Because you know, and then I don't know if she thought that was rude or not. But it felt really good to say, because that's exactly how I felt at that moment. I'm like, that's why because you never, you know, stopped in and Elise stopped. And she said, I love everything you have in bubble bond. And she and then she kept saying, awesome. I can get all these deals. I'm like, and then of course, from my perspective, yeah, it's completely different. Like, yeah, I'm excited for you and your deal. But look at it. From my perspective. I'm closing my business, I don't even know what the heck, I'm going to do next kind of thing. So it's

Unknown 1:04:08
Nope, she never bought anything. Well, there you go.

Justin Trosclair 1:04:13
great deal, but I still don't want it.

Unknown 1:04:15
I know, you know what to be honest with you, because of that experience. And what I've been through, when I see a store, you know, store closing, especially if it's a small business, and if I see 50% off, whatever, in my mind, I'm thinking I'm, I feel bad for them. Because I know if it's 50% off, they're not making any money. They're trying to recoup their class, and they're going out of business. And it makes me sad. So I've been to a couple businesses before I actually paid full price. I'm like, I know what you're going through. I'm going to give you full price. And I just hope it helps you get to that next step. And they at one lady I did that to she was in tears. So it's like, you know what, if I can help in any way, like, I'm going to do it, and I pushed up. I thought I was crazy. But I just know what it feels like. So

Justin Trosclair 1:04:57
yeah, yeah, that's true.

Unknown 1:05:00
Yeah.

Justin Trosclair 1:05:01
Well, that's what I know. Let's end it with that. That's a really good story. And I just want to thank you so much for your time, your honesty, your openness, and just being remarkable.

Unknown 1:05:11
Thank you, Justin, you're so sweet. And I I really enjoyed interviewing with you. And I'm available anytime because I could probably talk about a lot more so anytime.

Justin Trosclair 1:05:21
Absolutely. Thanks again.

Unknown 1:05:23
Yes, thank you, Justin.

Justin Trosclair 1:05:29
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today's travel tip is to carry on your luggage do your best to not have to pack a bag How often do you notice your bag asleep you train your plane was late now your bag is late now your vacation is starting way later than you wanted it to be. So that's annoying and then when you're traveling now you got to deal with Karen about it around and if it's not a very walking friendly now what are you gonna do with it so it's just easier I mean you can still have a carry on this roller I guess I should say that so that's fine but it's still you know you can have you know maximum 25 pounds so that's much easier to haul upstairs or on your backpack all day. And I in fact that I recommend if you're going to have you need to bring another small backpack like that like a school bag. That way you have your all your clothes and everything that you need for the trip and then your day pack that's what I like to call it a day pack. So while you're walking around you can have kind of what you need the essentials for the day without having to carry everything Of course you don't need a week's worth of clothes with you at all times. And then you know most hotels have like a safe the purchase your belong here. valuables in you know as far as the ladies go, especially if you're traveling overseas, they have hair dryers usually in the air in the hotels and yeah, just that's that would be my recommendation. travel light.

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